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SocialEngine 4 Information

We’ve developed SE4 with the primary goals of improving SE3’s customizability and extensibility. SE4 will not only be a turnkey white-label social network, but also a broadly-applicable social content platform in its own right.

The platform will be designed with a high level of modularity so that third-party plugins, skins, and other custom scripts can be easily implemented and adjusted. Internal scripts and templates will be highly granular to avoid upgrade conflict issues. SE4 will also be substantially more accessible (especially for mobile devices) thanks to thorough HTML4 standards compliance and fluid, div-based layouts. To improve extensibility/scalability, we’ve re-written the SE core on top of the highly-acclaimed Zend framework, which carries substantial documentation and a very active developer community with it.

While development is now underway, we do not yet have a set deadline for a public beta. This will be announced as soon as our development team has set one. We will directly contact every third-party developer currently listed on our third-party mods page when a beta is available so that they can begin upgrading their products.

Here is a tentative feature list for SE4:

  • Improved activity feed with member photos, in-feed posting and comments
  • HTML4 standards-compliant layout for increased accessibility
  • Renovated default skin with new, cleaner look
  • Built-in profile picture cropping tool
  • Automatic detection of locale & date/time from member’s browser
  • Users can belong to multiple networks (i.e. sub-networks)
  • Network affiliation is now shown more visibly on members’ profiles and in search results by default
  • Members can search for each other geographically (if geo-fields have been created by admin)
  • Completely renovated DB structure, improving scalability for large installs
  • New database abstraction layer lays the foundation for future data extraction and database interoperability
  • Upgrade from partial caching support to full Zend-driven comprehensive caching with various options
  • Significantly leaner HTML output
  • New content management system (CMS)
    • Layout can now be modified with drag & drop simplicity
    • New media manager allows for all media, such as images, to be viewed and edited directly from admin panel
    • Widgets can easily be added or removed from the admin panel
  • Vastly improved front and back-end modularity, making third-party development much easier
  • Third-party plugins can now easily add custom pages to the signup process
  • Comprehensive API
  • More script/template granularity, designed to ease customizations and minimize conflicts
  • Streamlined upgrade process for platform and plugins
  • Language packs can now be edited from the admin panel or directly in the pack files themselves
  • Admin now has its own member account and can appoint moderator-level members
  • Member content can be moderated by admin/moderators right on the network, outside admin panel
  • Improved and simplified network (i.e. sub-network) creation and management
  • Admin can now broadcast a message to all users at once
  • Admin can post announcements above the news feed
  • Pre-populated location-type profile fields now available (State, Country, ZIP)
  • Redundant fields (those that appear for multiple member types) now combined into “global fields”
  • Removed constraint on maximum number of profile fields

From this point forward, we will strive to be as transparent as possible about the upcoming development cycle and release. However, please keep questions about SE4 to a minimum at this point as we are focusing all of our efforts on development. Again, thank you all for your continued support and enthusiasm for SocialEngine!

58 Comments

  1. YC
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 3:47 am | Permalink

    I can't tell you how excited I am. I want to congratulate you and your team for being the leader of the pack. Kudos to you all!

  2. Steve Davies
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 3:57 am | Permalink

    This all sounds great, so thank you for sharing with us.

    From a personal standpoint I would appreciate SE V4 being available as soon as possible to minimise redundancy in the modifications I am making to SE v3.17. From this perspective I would welcome a staged release focusing primarily on the user interface and DB/framework, followed by the additional admin and sub-network functionality. The sooner we can all start getting used to the V4 functionality, the better.

    Would there be an opportunity for a 'limited' private beta run using real customers (with a decent understanding of PHP, HTML, Java) to use the initial version in anger? i.e. those people who wouldn't mind finding a few bugs and therefore contributing (positively) to its early stability.

    You obviously need to be comfortable with the integrity of the release, so I would rather you take your time and get it right. But please be quick..

    Those of us growing a significantly-sized social community would also welcome some benchmark statistics (compared with v3.17) with relevant information on server configuration.

  3. Hermann Keldenich
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    Hi,

    thanks for all the good news. I'm realy excited about SE4.

    One thing would be very fine, if we could group fields. In my Network users can fill out the stereo equipment and this is a long long list. So instead of (short example, the list is much longer)

    CD Player
    CD Recorder
    CD Laufwerk
    D/A Wandler
    Transistor-Vollverst

  4. amir
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    social engine 4 promised to be the best social network ever. I would like to thanks the developing team and hope that you guys update us periodically about the progress.
    good job
    thanks

  5. amir
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    social engine 4 promised to be the best social network ever. I would like to thanks the developing team and hope that you guys update us periodically about the progress.
    good job
    thanks

  6. Anderson
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

    Although this is minor and I dont know if u've done this already but if u've not please try and make activity feed say something like "Anderson commented on his picture" instead of Anderson commented on Anderson's picture"

  7. aleem
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    I hope they focus more on the user feeds and updates as well similar to facebook. So users can see feeds of people's pics, videos, notes, status updates and can comment on them as well.

    Even if there are third party appliations we should be able to see them on the feeds and comment

  8. patricia
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    Status update easily, it is very important, dont forget to put this hugh and easy for the user to update.

  9. skendo
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    i am waiting for this script to publish it on my site..

    but as soem one cna try 2 log into admin panel

    is there apossibility we to rename the admin folder :S?!

    so users cant log like http:///xxxxxsite.com/admin
    so maybe we want to rename it http://xxxxxsite.com/ceadmin or any other names..
    will be posibilities for this..?!

    Will it be a chat module inside of the script..?!
    and more moderated like facebooks..?! on bottom chat…?!

  10. Kyle
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    Sounds great, I look forward to the release!

  11. fahad
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    I'm excited to wait for the demo
    i hope it fixed with RTL
    you are great teem
    thank you

  12. pcfun
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    All this sounds great… though, it would be nice if you could implement an application so that developers can add their apps and users can search the apps directory to add them in their profiles…

    like facebook apps system… I know it is not easy to develop such an API but this would be GREAT

  13. Jamal
    Posted September 15, 2009 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    As Fahad said

    We hope that the new Platform support Full "RTL" layout and also the Plugins

    There are amazing features that we were waithing for a long time

    Thanks SocialEngine Team

  14. Darnell
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 1:56 am | Permalink

    Would be nice to have webcam capture upload for pics and video like on face book and myspace

  15. SOCIAL ENGINE ROMANIA
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 6:11 am | Permalink

    Great job Social Engine Team! I'm waiting for Social Engine 4 also. Social Engine Script is like Osho Meditations – BOOOOOMMMM!!!!!!!!!! Reborn again! Here and now :))

  16. Nagendra
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    Its Look Great But i want to tell the se team on can we backup our database and file from admin panel the it will be some more good for that new users and buy who much no about it. I Hope the SE Team is understand what i tell.

    Thank you

    Nagendra

  17. Ryan
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    This sounds amazing, I can't wait for it, this will make my website so much better, I want to thank the entire SocialEngine team!

  18. Robi
    Posted September 16, 2009 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    Very Important because im tired of taking many hours all the time that i update de Core, because all my mods. right now im on 3.15 and thinking a lot to change to 3.17 but that eternal move my modifications, I hear that you will do some big changes to we can upgrade without loose all that but my question because you will change DB from what version of SE will be possible the upgrade to Ver 4 ? in that way i can wait for next released.

  19. Chris Brewer
    Posted September 17, 2009 at 12:11 am | Permalink

    I'm hopeful that search will have a robust API that lets third party devs integrate their data into the result set so that an SE 4 site feels like a cohesive whole instead of a collection of loosely integrated pieces.

  20. Serge NGBESSO
    Posted September 17, 2009 at 3:04 am | Permalink

    Please LIVE activity feed like on brightkite.com
    so users can background track REALTIME activity (that of course should be filtered to his locale etc..)

    This fuctionality will BLOW OUT any competition period.

  21. Serge NGBESSO
    Posted September 17, 2009 at 3:09 am | Permalink

    AJAX, AJAX and AJAX again everywhere possible to make management a breeze.
    thx for your commitment :)

  22. David Sanchez
    Posted September 17, 2009 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Good Work!!!

  23. petdating.ro
    Posted September 17, 2009 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    I can't wait! you're the best!
    http://www.petdating.ro

  24. BSC
    Posted September 17, 2009 at 11:23 pm | Permalink

    great.. waiting for release.. hope this will provide more privacy features to users… with moe set of permissions for each subsections.

  25. Fajar P Muhammad
    Posted September 18, 2009 at 5:22 am | Permalink

    Great guyz…
    Hope that this version will expand the capabilities of social engine especially with the LOUD BALANCING issue

  26. UstillUp
    Posted September 18, 2009 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    I can't tell you how excited I am. I hope this comes available before Christmas.

  27. Jeff
    Posted September 20, 2009 at 7:24 am | Permalink

    Please hurry with the beta =0
    Im dying to see this!!!!!!

  28. PiRi
    Posted September 20, 2009 at 11:54 pm | Permalink

    It would be GREAT! if users could customize their profile like in myspace and as easy as them, with the users choice of background, text color, transparency, ext…

  29. Kevin Payne
    Posted September 21, 2009 at 1:37 am | Permalink

    How much will is cost?? I can't wait to see it!!

  30. Robert
    Posted September 23, 2009 at 2:28 am | Permalink

    Looking forward to the new release. IMHO what will make or break socialengine is how much we can do with groups. Groups are the core functionality that can set one network apart from the rest. The more group members can interact with each other, set up their own wikis and documents, calendars, a group "home page" and selectively publish group content to the river and via admin to the main front page, the more people will buy socialengine. The focus regarding the entire development should be to create a more adult, business oriented approach. Kids spend a lot of time with their profile, adults spend their time in groups interacting with like-minded peers.
    Secondly, multi-user video chat is badly needed out of the box to stay ahead of the curve. My users are becoming more demanding by the day. We have to push the envelope to stay competitive.

  31. Daniel
    Posted September 23, 2009 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    SEO please make V4 More SEO friendly, lets have some control panel via the CMS to be able to manage META info.

  32. Surlarprensi
    Posted September 23, 2009 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    Thats great to read this news.. but i've an idea about new version.. would the theme installing like joomla in the new version? or could we use multi-themes, for example 3-5 themes in the same time ? if we could then this version will be PERFECT

  33. Darren
    Posted September 23, 2009 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    I second Robert's point — Group is a key differentiator.

  34. Emile Jobity
    Posted September 24, 2009 at 5:56 am | Permalink

    I like Robert's point. Focus on Groups and group interactivity. Too many Social networks focus on single user's profile. Group interactivity and how well they interact with each other is the new wave in social network. For the multi user video chat i dont expect to see that soon in SE. That may have to be a 3rd party module. What i would like to see and i will pay for are SE customizeable apps for iphone and android. We jus customise it to match our website and its settings and then we publish it to iphone store and android market. Thanks.

  35. Alex Harris
    Posted September 25, 2009 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    Please improve SE speed and performance, and allow it to scale to the maximum level in order to handle thousands and even millions of traffic and members, and please focus on the server performance and scalability. Many of us will be running some extremely high-traffic social networks, and performance is our number 1 concern.

    On the other hand, please tighten and tweak the security of the script to the maximum level, and finally please try to bring the best features available in third-party mods and integrate them in this new version. This does not mean that will no longer purchase third-party mods, but many important features are missing in SE and should be available in its core.

    Thanks a lot webligo team, and we are looking forward for v4.

  36. Nicholas Swartz
    Posted September 29, 2009 at 11:45 pm | Permalink

    This is great news, although i havent even got to start my site, the new version sounds promising. Thanks for the update, can't wait to test.

  37. Darnell
    Posted September 30, 2009 at 3:31 am | Permalink

    Please make the events section more appealing.

  38. John Dark
    Posted September 30, 2009 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    I think the major change will be and cannot wait for it!

    "Completely renovated DB structure, improving scalability for large installs"

  39. loveluinfo
    Posted September 30, 2009 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    It is really great news. It would be great if the default template design is Tableless. ( I mean DIV is better then table)

  40. Mohansingh
    Posted October 3, 2009 at 3:17 am | Permalink

    It is a great news. I am waiting for this.Please insert geo fields in Groups & events like in myspace.Provide advanced search option in groups & events.

  41. Mario McKenzie
    Posted October 3, 2009 at 7:53 am | Permalink

    Yes I think footer chat similar to facebook.com would be an extremely great addition.

  42. Angel
    Posted October 5, 2009 at 11:10 pm | Permalink

    Love the programming work. Really needs to be mobile/smart phone compatible. This is where the future is.

  43. Pru
    Posted October 6, 2009 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    Waiting for more details and hopefully a demo. I have put all development on my site on hold as it sounds like v3 plugins will not be compatable. Please keep the v4 updates comming. We would also appreciate any news from SE developers about what to expect when we upgrade.

  44. Choudhury
    Posted October 6, 2009 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    Hi,
    I also want to know if you can install the product from scratch with all the mods you bought from SE. But I would like to keep the users base. Please make sure if we upgrade, we should be able to keep the existing users, i do not care about the mods if I can reinstall them later. That will be great for so many site owners who wants to start fresh with existing users. Thanks

  45. Jonathan Cousar
    Posted October 8, 2009 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    I would like to hear more about how you're going to upgrade the plugins to be compatible with the new version. Especially the Forums / Blogs / Groups plugins. I hope the forums especially will be a major upgrade with extensive changes and additions to functionality.

  46. N. L. Benton
    Posted October 12, 2009 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    So, it has been about a month since this update… hopefully there will be some new information soon!

  47. Frank
    Posted October 12, 2009 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    I completely agree with Robert's opinion about group's functionality. Interactive groups are eagerly needed for my website.

  48. Mario M
    Posted October 13, 2009 at 12:42 am | Permalink

    A more advanced ad placement system would also be great addition. would love to see an ad system sumilar to the other social networks where admin can place small advertisements the boxes on side columns.

  49. Roman
    Posted October 13, 2009 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    Can't wait till SE 4 comes out. In the meantime more information about the release date and new features would be very much appreciated.
    I need to work on many things that require customization – all based on SE 3.17, and was just wondering if I should wait till SE 4 comes out. But if I know it'll be another 3-4 months before the first release; I'll just continue to work with 3.17 for now.
    I'm sure that many of us who use SE find themselves in a similar situation.

  50. Michael
    Posted October 14, 2009 at 7:30 am | Permalink

    I bought this script in an early stadge and then we got into some major work and the WWW got set on hold. Now almost a year later we still havent launched our site with SE and we are about to – but I see with this new version there wont be a pain in updating, there wont be a pain to redesign and rethink.

    This might jsut be the best this month for me :)
    But … Is SE4 set to be released this year or next year? How far are we from actually updating the licinse to V4?

  51. Julio
    Posted October 14, 2009 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    I hope this new version no have many AJAX!! ajax no is speed, … thank you! and the comments can have option for dellet all comments!

  52. Chris Adkins
    Posted October 16, 2009 at 4:16 am | Permalink

    Perhaps it's not what others are looking for but I think everyone should be able to search for events, members, etc. by radius (50mi from zip 06762)

    In addition I was disappointed how I wasn't easily able to edit the layout and design. Perhaps I just need to read up on how to edit templates. HTML and PHP are easy to edit but the template system messes me up. Is there an easy way to edit the colors, layout?

  53. Chris
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 6:17 am | Permalink

    Just an update would be greatly appreciated. I've been holding back from launching due to what I expect to be an extreme makeover necessary with this freshly coded engine.

  54. Sean
    Posted October 20, 2009 at 12:23 am | Permalink

    New to SE, but sounds like v4 would be worth waiting.
    Would the price point be like v3?
    As it is, the solution is spendy.

  55. Frank
    Posted October 24, 2009 at 5:18 am | Permalink

    Robbert, Emile, I agree with you. I am looking for custimization for group. Could you share any information with me? Thank you in advance

  56. Jay
    Posted November 18, 2009 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    ADD THIS:

    1. Set Default Picture from any of your pics already uploaded?

    2. Bulletins. – Like MySpace..

  57. amanda
    Posted December 2, 2009 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    Love it, can not wait to try the new and improved script, well done.

  58. maksood
    Posted February 6, 2010 at 5:45 am | Permalink

    your coding style is excellent

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