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v4.1.4 Scheduled For Release

Continuing with our monthly release schedule, version 4.1.4 is scheduled to be released this Wednesday. Here’s a list of some of the changes you can expect from the update:

  • Mobile!
    The most interesting item scheduled for release this week is a mobile plugin! The mobile plugin will simplify the layout specifically for mobile browsers. All default themes and modules will now have a mobile stylesheet, and the mobile plugin will work with both iPhone and Android phones. NOTE TO THEME DEVELOPERS: You will need to start including a mobile.css file in your themes. Contact us if you would like an sample of that file to include in your themes.

  • Album
    Images can now be flipped and rotated.

  • Blog
    We’ve brought back an often requested feature: users can now upload photos through the TinyMCE editor! Additionally, users can subscribe to a member’s blog.

  • Video
    The embed code for YouTube and Vimeo was updated to support mobile viewing. Additionally, support for YouTube’s short URL ( was added. Lastly, admins can now allow members to copy the video embed code.

  • Forum
    We’ve fixed a few bugs in forums, such as spacing issues that occurred when editing, as well as incorporated better BBcode support

  • Payment
    We’ve fixed a Paypal issue with none default currencies

  • Core
    We are now using Mootools 1.2.5, which has made SocialEngine IE9 compatible. Banned words, IPs and emails are now stored in individual tables (ie. engine4_core_bannedemails), and the sitemap now uses the Sitemap protocol ( Lastly, logins are now tracked (under spam & banning settings page).

There are a number of other minor fixes that will be included – as usual, you’ll be able to find the changelog file in the core tar file. If you have any questions or concerns, be sure to let us know!


  1. Posted April 11, 2011 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    All sounds fantastic – looking forward the IE9 fix and hoping it will mean I can take payments in sterling – woohoo.

    Thanks for all the hard work and my members are loving my new site (based on SE4 of course!).


  2. Glenn Norvic
    Posted April 11, 2011 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    Excellent! Will definitely get the mobile plugin :)

  3. John T.
    Posted April 11, 2011 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    Sounds like a great update! thank you :-)

  4. Giorgio
    Posted April 11, 2011 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    What about the "payment bug" on user registration?

  5. Posted April 11, 2011 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    Is the mobile plugin included free of what is its price?
    Also, this sounds really hopefull and like I have said many times, I am so, so, so excited to finally get up and running on V4 from my V3 site. So can you please tell me if the migration script is going to work correctly this time! Please take a small amount of time to focus on that.

  6. Nima
    Posted April 11, 2011 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

    I purchased Hir-expert mobile plugin few days ago, it would be nice if you give us general idea of future plan and releases a head.

    and also it would be nice if you add in knowledgebase how we could add gateways other than 2co and paypal.

  7. Charlotte
    Posted April 11, 2011 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    @Shaggy – It's on our list of items to test before Wednesday.

    @Nima – We did announce that we were working on mobile compatibility a few months ago:

  8. Posted April 11, 2011 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    Mobile plugin with video viewing! And not restricted by a 3rd party interest (including only their addons). Awesome. Hope you include in future releases a way to add albums directly from their phones.

    Suggestions for 4.1.5

    4.1.5 – (Widget Creator Tool): Using a simply scripting language (Basically if/end if, for/next, etc) and the variables exposed, let's create our own widgets without the need of PHP expertise. This will make our sites less cookie cutter and lots of customization for our needs.

    4.1.5 (MaxMind GeoLite for Spamming Control). Exclude access to certain countries.

    4.1.5 (Make all pages widgetable please).

    4.1.6 (Convert MySQL to Sphinx for real fast searches)
    4.1.6 (Addopt Vivvo template open source for easy template customization)

    BTW, Forum owners will love your fixes :)

    Keep on the good work.

  9. philip
    Posted April 11, 2011 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    looking forward on the mobile plug in

    more power to u guys !

  10. Ermir
    Posted April 11, 2011 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    SE is going better and better.

    Good job guys!

  11. Luis
    Posted April 11, 2011 at 11:18 pm | Permalink

    Guy's you are awesome! Still waiting for the separation of the admin and user as far as translation goes!!! Keep it up!!!!

  12. Posted April 11, 2011 at 11:22 pm | Permalink

    SE is a great product and these monthly updates are great. Good work!

  13. John T.
    Posted April 12, 2011 at 12:41 am | Permalink

    Once more thank you for your heads up on the release. Glad to see everything on that list, but I was hoping that perhaps you would provide a tentative list of things that you would be working on/expected for next months release.

    Simply to give us an idea of where SE is headed and what to get excited for.

    Three of the things that top my list:

    1. A way to deal with spam
    2. trying to fix all the outstanding bugs
    3. Optimize code for speed and functionality

  14. Alex
    Posted April 12, 2011 at 12:59 am | Permalink

    @John – thanks for the support! There are already some great spam-fighting tools built-in. Try enabling CAPTCHAs on signup, and/or adding member approval (email activation and/or admin approval) to filter out automated signups. Regarding bugs, we constantly addressing bugs that are reported and releasing fixes for them with every month's scheduled release. Optimization is also underway, and we'll be making some more announcements of upcoming features soon!

  15. Posted April 12, 2011 at 1:14 am | Permalink

    What is the price of the mobile plugin?

  16. Ian
    Posted April 12, 2011 at 1:46 am | Permalink

    Glad to see the forum issues being addressed and the mobile plugin will be a welcome addition.

    By any chance is the friend request bug corrected as well (where I request to be someones friend and then I can immediately "accept" it as if they were the one who made the request)?

  17. Benjamin
    Posted April 12, 2011 at 1:55 am | Permalink

    Is there an API coming? Past emails w/ John noted that. (We're anxious ((like you can't believe)) about that.) Our whole project depends upon that.

  18. Posted April 12, 2011 at 2:19 am | Permalink

    You never cease to amaze.

    Suggestion for 4.1.5

    membership level options for freindships. e.g. Allow social members to follow business members without becoming friends.


    Gary M.

  19. Mike Malast
    Posted April 12, 2011 at 2:45 am | Permalink

    how do you upgrade to the newer versions…im stuck on the 4.12…couldnt figure out how to do the instal of .13 even though i migrated myself from 3 – 4 haha im an idiot please help

  20. Richard
    Posted April 12, 2011 at 4:09 am | Permalink

    Hi all…. I have 4. something and would be more than willing to pay you really wonderful, awesome, great, neat folks over there at SE to update my site.


  21. Nima
    Posted April 12, 2011 at 4:30 am | Permalink

    ok I admit it is my mistake, thank you Charlotte

    how ever i have another request, in 4.1.5 can we have enter in comment so we could have separate line in comments. if this feature is there already, let me know how i could activate it.

  22. The Gender
    Posted April 12, 2011 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    Thank you for your continued commitment to excellence. Can I make a tiny suggestion though?

    Would it be possible in future to release your updates maybe two months apart instead of every month?

    It's just that with a large site that has a lot of plugins, we find that first we have to wait for the 3rd party developers to update their plugins to work with your latest release and then it takes and age to reinstall all their plugins and there are always problems which again, take ages to resolve. We still haven't got everything straightened out following the last release and the next one is upon us already.

    The developers also complain that they are spending all their time making new compatible versions of their plugins that will work with your latest release when they could be working on new products.

    So a bit more time between releases would help a lot and give you more time to make them even better!

    Thanks, Tony

  23. rony
    Posted April 12, 2011 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    This is an amazing step forward ….nice work SE…

  24. Alper
    Posted April 12, 2011 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    Monthly updates made socialengine a better product. forum plugin can have more features such as subforums and an independent forum searchbox etc

  25. Posted April 12, 2011 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    Please include commenting and liking on the comments it self like Facebook

  26. philip
    Posted April 12, 2011 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    My 4.1.5 suggestion a dedicated page just for links that was posted by all the members on the activity wall with categories and ratings arrange according to date and popularity with tabs of today,yesterday,this week and overall ranking

    more power to you guys keep it up

    greetings from vienna austria

  27. Osei
    Posted April 12, 2011 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    Loving it more and more everyday keep up the good work also for a future request apps plugin :)

  28. Posted April 12, 2011 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    In addition to my question on how much the mobile plugin will be, do you also have any information on when ALL pages within socialEngine will be drag and drop, this way I can design the user messages page in the column layout that I want and drop in advertisements, along with the blog page, forum, etc?

  29. ward
    Posted April 12, 2011 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    Amanda brought this up and I totally agree (and it's free):

    MaxMind GeoLite: Geo location for spamming control. Exclude access to certain countries like China, Nigeria, etc. Also, the net is headed towards this anyways for *location based* member sign ups, searching, networking and navigating. The three ing's to a successful platform.

    Without geo locating / zip codes … Searching for members, events, classifieds, listings, etc is completely useless …

  30. Posted April 12, 2011 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    Hello the SE team,

    I truly welcome the great improvement. Day after day SE is striving to be the best out there. I would like to see an improvement in the search capability within the site in the next release.
    one plug in that I would like to see is a live streaming plug in where admin can use only. Awesome news when it comes to the mobile plug in. It is nice to know that SE is taking more control of some of the plug ins. I do agree with Katie G. that says the release could be every other month. It is not only good for site admins but for you guys to perfect your releases. Happy developing.

  31. Amr
    Posted April 12, 2011 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    YOU ROCK SE! Always developing! You are no.1 choice and I will recommend you to anyone who asks me for a SN Script

  32. Posted April 13, 2011 at 1:47 am | Permalink

    There are only a few short comings in SE4 in general. If following is changed, then it would become top of the range script:

    1- If a user post a link in the What's New box, it should autometically be sensed to be video, photo, or other website link like facebook.

    2- Friendship request should be available on AJAX like in facebook without refreshing the page.

    I wish the above could be possible at all ! Hope for the best.

  33. Posted April 13, 2011 at 2:16 am | Permalink

    How if I use default theme? What's the code should I use in mobile.css?

  34. Posted April 13, 2011 at 3:42 am | Permalink

    sounds great… kinda regret buying the mobile plugin now tho…

  35. Posted April 13, 2011 at 8:37 am | Permalink

    Can we upload pictures from mobile site?
    the third party plugin doesn't have it.


  36. SAH
    Posted April 13, 2011 at 12:07 pm | Permalink


  37. Posted April 13, 2011 at 2:07 pm | Permalink


    at what time will you released the version 4.1.4 today?
    thank you

  38. Posted April 13, 2011 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    today? at what time? we are about to buy but we are waiting…

  39. David
    Posted April 13, 2011 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    Do the Blogs (if they have an image post on the activity feed w/ the picture now?

    also membership level business Profiles can be requested to be friends, but in turn they can not request to befriends other memebrs

    or that business members be

  40. Charlotte
    Posted April 13, 2011 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    We're still on to release later this afternoon. Keep in mind we're in the Pacific timezone (west coast of the US). Thanks guys!

  41. Enkhtamir
    Posted April 14, 2011 at 1:27 am | Permalink

    still waiting…

  42. Nick
    Posted April 14, 2011 at 1:33 am | Permalink

    Anytime now………HURRY!

  43. luca
    Posted April 14, 2011 at 5:57 am | Permalink

    Some questions about Mobile:
    1. is it possible to upload/watch videos?
    2. is Chat/IM possible?
    Thanks Luca

  44. Hany
    Posted April 14, 2011 at 8:17 am | Permalink

    I do not see TinyMCE editor in Blog v4.1.4 !!??


    We've brought back an often requested feature: users can now upload photos through the TinyMCE editor! Additionally, users can subscribe to a member's blog.

  45. Helen
    Posted April 14, 2011 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for the update… however any suggestions regarding how to upgrade when my server times out continuously trying to unpack the 22.4MB file ?

  46. Avraham
    Posted April 16, 2011 at 4:26 am | Permalink

    If I make the upgrade will I loose any data I have stored such as ip addresses I have as deny entrance? Also, if I already have a mobile plugin installed do I need to disable it or uninstall ot before I install your mobile plugin?

  47. Charlotte
    Posted April 16, 2011 at 4:59 am | Permalink

    @Avraham – No, you won't lose your data. You will want to disable your existing mobile plugin before you install ours.

  48. Andreas
    Posted April 16, 2011 at 5:56 am | Permalink

    subscription and payment module doesn't work :( – not really fixed

  49. Charlotte
    Posted April 16, 2011 at 6:44 am | Permalink

    @Andreas – Can you elaborate on what problems you're having?

  50. Hani
    Posted April 18, 2011 at 7:58 am | Permalink

    hi there will it be able to show 3rd party plugins such as listing plugin from socialengineaddons

  51. Posted April 18, 2011 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    i would love to see the socialengine team figure out an integration with hip hop php ( opensource ) for future release , avoid php eval() and so on. In our world , every little peice of cpu and memory of our VPS server are vital.

    This would allow admins to manage more traffic and result in a more stable/reliable product.

    Keep up the greatness đŸ˜‰


  52. Sam
    Posted April 18, 2011 at 11:08 pm | Permalink

    Not withstanding the total lack of instructions on how to upgrade – as well as downloading a 'faulty' groups plugin – the upgrade went seemlessly (as far as I can tell) – which is strange. Maybe SE4 is getting better ??!

    I discovered that its important to upgrade the core first and leave the activity plugin till almost last otherwise the installation will throw errors because of missing tables in the database. Pity the makers of SE4 didn't tell us this…

    All other systems seem to working except:
    1. Cannot see anywhere where admin can set embedding for videos (even though the change log says so…)
    2. Cannot for the life of me understand why we must pay for the mobile plugin. What's a social network platform without mobile access. THIS PLUGIN SHOULD BE FREE!
    3. The abuse report function still doesn't allow admin to respond to the abuse reporter to let them know you're onto it!
    4. Version 4.1.4 runs SLOWER than 4.0.5.p2 – even with compression etc!
    5. The package uploader has stopped functioning (have to now upload .tar file in /temporary/archive to get it to work !!!!!
    6. Cannot see link for subscribing to Blogs (as outlined in change log)

  53. Posted April 19, 2011 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

    Is there a fix for the special character problem like "ä" or "ö" when migrating?

  54. philip
    Posted April 30, 2011 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    next upgrade should be some modefication on the blog like a thumbnail

  55. Chris
    Posted May 1, 2011 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    SE 4.14 does not display well on IE9. Found many missing areas. One glaring part is the absence of add video/music/file etc when messaging

  56. Tyler
    Posted May 3, 2011 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    Future idea, Browse page of albums,etc shows all albums, it should filter like if we have view albums to friends only, it should not be seen in browse page who is not my friend, but it shows, however it doesnot open, he/she will gets an error message, You donot have permissions to view this album. Same for other polls etc plugins.

    Next important feature is CUSTOM PRIVACY like facebook, I want to share and ALBUM to only two friends, A Wall POST should be shown to specific friends only

    Filtration of Wall post , filter post of specific friends.

  57. Posted May 4, 2011 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    Request features.

    Phrases or ‘single word’ changes are not applied to EN language. For example if I wanted to change 'GROUP' with 'CASES' on the main menu, this is not applied.

    Group privacy settings are not limited inside that group, cause all the Photos and Videos uploaded inside ‘Post Something’, are seen by everyone outside the group as well.
    We would prefer that all the photos and videos uploaded within a group are seen only by the Group subscribers.

    The Blog Editor is not as powerful as the Forum one.

    Is it possible to allow the choice of Networks during registration and, at the same time, give the user the possibility to add or remove a network in the future?

    Is it possible to add a Photo/Picture Zoom Function?

    Some videos uploaded by users lose the aspect ratio during playback.

    The administrator should be able to resend the confirmation email to all unconfirmed users (shown on Admin Panel) because of technical problems that have prevented the receipt of the email containing the confirmation link.

    Salvatore Tribastone

  58. Wes
    Posted May 6, 2011 at 4:37 am | Permalink

    I still love SE and very impressed with the software and functionality. I just wish these incremental releases would stop and only either bug fixes or major product gets released in the future. The main selling point for SE is the amount of mod developers out there that can customize your site to meet yours and your users needs. To release minor upgrades every 1.5 months is painstaking, time consuming and, more importantly, too expensive! I have had to go through 3 SE versions in 4 months and spend 100's of manhours to rectify problems with 3rd party developers that I didn't need to go through. In addition, your contracted offshore technical people are not trained enough to resolve even the most simplistic problems and generally give template responses to errors (caused by 3rd party plugins….blah blah blah). PLEASE – this is not a hobby for some of us – this is the creation of a viable business based on your software. Stop with the small updates and help with REAL releases and provide highly trained, American support. Thanks.

  59. Ranjit
    Posted May 11, 2011 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Congrats on the new release. I notice that newer versions of the plugins have also been provided. Is there a change log for the plugins or are the newer plugins released for compatibility with the core? I have added additional functionality to some of the earlier plugins and therefore I am at a loss to do decide whether to continue using older (self enhanced) plugins or use the new ones and add functionality to them.

  60. Sam
    Posted May 17, 2011 at 1:57 am | Permalink

    The slow speed of SE4.1.4 needs to be addressed as a matter of URGENCY. SE forums are full of complaints from users who say the number 1 problem with SE is the sloppy way database queries are handled as well as the number of them.

    I have all the requirements of SE as well as a high spec server and 4.1.4 can take anywhere between 15-20 seconds to load. This is unacceptable for this type of software.

    This is a major issue that needs to be addressed.

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